tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5075006.post4821493530348457114..comments2023-10-11T18:23:17.225+08:00Comments on {caffeine_sparks}: In Defence of the Publicsparkshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14176802456964956777noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5075006.post-45876753438404743252008-03-06T15:39:00.000+08:002008-03-06T15:39:00.000+08:00"how we behave in public spaces."What was it that ..."how we behave in public spaces."<BR/><BR/>What was it that Churchill said? "We shape our buildings and afterwards our buildings shape us."<BR/><BR/>We so totally overlook the role our civic spaces in fostering our civic spirits. The built environment encourages our civility (or permits our lack of civility).<BR/><BR/>We're so hung up with the software (people, publics) that we forget they haveUrbano dela Cruzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04789741333608173414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5075006.post-27860304941706474342008-03-05T17:24:00.000+08:002008-03-05T17:24:00.000+08:00sparks,Ah, but perhaps, that's what blogs are here...sparks,<BR/><BR/>Ah, but perhaps, that's what blogs are here for.<BR/><BR/>So that we can talk about it. Figure it out.<BR/><BR/>It will take time. A lot of time.<BR/><BR/>We shall see. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5075006.post-30767896983597254292008-03-05T16:54:00.000+08:002008-03-05T16:54:00.000+08:00Ah, I was concurring with you, Sparks, and not jon...Ah, I was concurring with you, Sparks, and not jon limjap. His comment didn't show when I wrote my previous comment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5075006.post-90128365610674547962008-03-05T16:37:00.000+08:002008-03-05T16:37:00.000+08:00No, we shouldn't whither and die. All I'm saying i...No, we shouldn't whither and die. All I'm saying is, the problem cannot be solved by simply doing our part as private citizens - being good people, buying local goods, paying taxes, trusting in "the process" and "rule of law." Comforting things.<BR/><BR/>Now that I've been away for a while, I've only realised this. That isn't enough. Again we have to ask ourselves the question - what do we do?sparkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14176802456964956777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5075006.post-10224729968568257982008-03-05T15:56:00.000+08:002008-03-05T15:56:00.000+08:00^ Yes, agree. Actually, Tao Te Ching teaches such,...^ Yes, agree. Actually, Tao Te Ching teaches such, indirectly. "When the center does not hold, things fall apart". Public servants, governments, they are a nation's center.<BR/><BR/>On a slightly related note, though, some people from the government was just like us, private individuals, before becoming public servants. Now isn't it possible that us as private individuals have, in the first placeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5075006.post-52304428402068939132008-03-05T15:42:00.000+08:002008-03-05T15:42:00.000+08:00Hmm, so that means that we'll all just whither and...Hmm, so that means that we'll all just whither and die in hopelessness then. Let's migrate abroad. It's better there. The Philippines is hopeless, and will just go to waste.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5075006.post-6295687921870652232008-03-05T15:19:00.000+08:002008-03-05T15:19:00.000+08:00But again, where do the police and the public serv...<I>But again, where do the police and the public servants come from? They are still ordinary people.</I><BR/><BR/>This is probably where I need to make the difference clearer between what I mean by "private" and "public." A public servant is not an ordinary person. Just as the President and all whom we trust to man our public institutions are not <B>ordinary</B> persons. We are private sparkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14176802456964956777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5075006.post-60837251569374999782008-03-05T13:01:00.000+08:002008-03-05T13:01:00.000+08:00Hi sparks,Cvj just mentioned this article to me an...Hi sparks,<BR/><BR/>Cvj just mentioned this article to me and we might have independently arrived in certain similarities and intermeshing in our thoughts regarding our society. Check out my 3 part Blogpost at bayanikabayan.blogspot.com/ titled Amid the Flags and Banners, For Whom do We Fight For (Part 1), and For Whom do We Fight For (Conclusion).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5075006.post-78522559886597913642008-03-05T12:35:00.000+08:002008-03-05T12:35:00.000+08:00"Public institutions - the bureaucracy and its bur..."Public institutions - the bureaucracy and its bureaucrats. Public institutions - the police, public servants. People you work 30% more to pay. People/rules/institutions that are supposed to act/mediate on your behalf and mine without causing injury to either one of us."<BR/><BR/>But again, where do the police and the public servants come from?<BR/><BR/>They are still ordinary people. The Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5075006.post-50072731030847522212008-03-04T12:42:00.000+08:002008-03-04T12:42:00.000+08:00Also, to add just one sentence (PRAMIS! PARA DI NA...Also, to add just one sentence (PRAMIS! PARA DI NA MAHABA!)<BR/><BR/>I don't think garbage is left on the streets in the name of survival so much that it is in the name of laziness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5075006.post-58077977744748226142008-03-04T12:35:00.000+08:002008-03-04T12:35:00.000+08:00Wow. I blushed crimson when I read my moniker on t...Wow. I blushed crimson when I read my moniker on the post. I always become a tomato whenever my blog is mentioned. I don't know why. But I have to stop making the comment box my private (it's the word of the day, isn't it? :D) soapbox, so...<BR/><BR/>Also, apologies in advance if this isn't very well-structured. I'm not good at making my comments very logical and chronological. Sorry.<BR/><BR/>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5075006.post-83401539827321400442008-03-04T11:17:00.000+08:002008-03-04T11:17:00.000+08:00Jon,I haven't heard of this tagline and my post su...Jon,<BR/><BR/>I haven't heard of this tagline and my post suggests nothing of the kind. When you say "bayan" its not the same as "public institutions." I do not think my post makes anything simple. If anything, it complicates the matter even more. <BR/><BR/>Public institutions - the bureaucracy and its bureaucrats. Public institutions - the police, public servants. People you work 30% more to paysparkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14176802456964956777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5075006.post-49488703317460367262008-03-04T10:51:00.000+08:002008-03-04T10:51:00.000+08:00You hit the nail on the head. There are times when...You hit the nail on the head. There are times when you turn into something you are not in the name of survival. When institutions are bastardized, rule of law and civility does not exist. That is the reality we all are facing now. The best way is as Arbet tries to put it. Do what is expected of you and adhere to your principles. <BR/><BR/>Change should emanate from us, then maybe we can influencemschumey07https://www.blogger.com/profile/04104105681290452414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5075006.post-46999635729446226962008-03-04T10:46:00.000+08:002008-03-04T10:46:00.000+08:00Agree, it can be summed up by this quote: if other...Agree, it can be summed up by this quote: if other can do it, why can't I? Kidding.<BR/><BR/>There is no incentive to do good publicly. I have a post about this http://awbholdings.com/blog/?p=161<BR/><BR/>Sa tagalog, bakit ka magpapakabuti kung yung iba eh hindi?<BR/><BR/>It gets cyclical from there, that is why translating an inward change outwards is the way to go. And honest-to-God law Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5075006.post-46029591686619897432008-03-04T10:36:00.000+08:002008-03-04T10:36:00.000+08:00And so you subscribe by "Bayan muna bago sarili", ...And so you subscribe by "Bayan muna bago sarili", wherein "Bayan muna dapat ang magbago, bago ako magbago?"<BR/><BR/>Ganon lang ba yun kasimple?<BR/><BR/>Seriously, that the system is that way is not just a random coincidence. <EM>The system is made up of people.</EM> We are parts of the very system we loathe. We are parts of the very system we want to change.<BR/><BR/>So to divide the change Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com